Ford Threatening Dodge with Lawsuit.

"Milky" (jordanmielke) 07/29/2014 at 09:00 • Filed to: f-450, ford, ram, 3500, lawsuit

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Because they are lying?

Every truck maker is switching to the new SAE J2807 towing standard. That includes Ford with the all new Super Duty in a few years time. Until then both manufacturers are claiming best in class towing.

Which is where things get tricky. Because Ford might not have any grounds to make this claim. To make the DOT's class 3 rules of a 14,000lb GVWR, the F-450 is weighed without the spare tire, tirejack, and center console.

Dodge addressed this in their response - "Our best-in-class claim of 30,000 pounds of towing capacity for the 2014 Ram 3500 stands firm in the 350/3500 segment. Additionally, unlike our competitors, our new 2015 Ram 3500 will hold the title and weight capacity while adhering to the SAE J2807 towing test criteria"

Big trucks and even bigger egos seem to be at play here.

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Personally I just think ford is upset because Dodge swept the podium at this years !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! .

Axel-Ripper > Milky 07/29/2014 at 09:14

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All I'm seeing is a bunch of companies needlessly waving their dicks around. Regardless of actual tow rating, 90% of the people who will buy a truck in this category will buy based on brand alone, then lock on to one stat and use that in conversations about their truck with individuals who have a similar truck from a different brand.

Milky > Axel-Ripper 07/29/2014 at 09:23

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Soooo true, there are so many Ford/Chevy/Dodge families out there, its ridiculous.

shpuker > Milky 07/29/2014 at 09:24

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Assuming Ford is arguing the 450 as the victor, they're miles away from being right... Ram is claiming best in class in the 350/3500 class, and they're right.... Dumb move Ford. Not that it will amount to anything, but still. Why bother?

Group B-raaaaaaaaaap! > Milky 07/29/2014 at 09:32

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Cummins > PowerBroke

Milky > shpuker 07/29/2014 at 09:32

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I don't know why Ford did this. Its not like they can actually win this in court, or that it will even go there. So why did they assume Ram would just back down?

Milky > Group B-raaaaaaaaaap! 07/29/2014 at 09:35

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Agreed, and now I'm going to share this screen grab from the linked video just because.

shpuker > Milky 07/29/2014 at 09:37

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Who knows. They might just be looking for some of that old drama triangle that's been missing the past few years. Now that Ram is back into the game sales wise Ford is spitting in their face almost as a sign of respect for how well they've come back? That's what I want it to be at least. Truck drama is always amusing.

Milky > shpuker 07/29/2014 at 09:44

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Not a terrible point, lets have the truck wars rage on. How long before 1,000-lbft from the factory?

deekster_caddy > Milky 07/29/2014 at 09:47

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Tow ratings are getting silly. I'm quite happy with the towing ability of my '73 Buick. Since I got it running I was able to get rid of my Yukon. All I want is to be able to pull my car trailer.

shpuker > Milky 07/29/2014 at 09:50

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I give it 2 years. If not less. Hell the 2016 refresh from Ram would be the perfect time.

Jedidiah > deekster_caddy 07/29/2014 at 09:55

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The beauty of a V8 and massive perimeter frame. My dad's 70 Olds had a larger tow rating than a lot of trucks for a long time.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Milky 07/29/2014 at 12:15

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That isn't even the Cummins that won and it wiped out the Ford's!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Group B-raaaaaaaaaap! 07/29/2014 at 12:17

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Which company can't keep an engine for more than 4 years? Oh, yeah that's Ford.

Milky > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/29/2014 at 12:29

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I know. But if I actually saw the other one with its blacked out headlights and bright ass fogs IRL on the road, I would think the owner is D-bag.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Milky 07/29/2014 at 12:34

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I don't care if the truck is bro'd as long as they spent more under the hood.

Milky > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/29/2014 at 12:37

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Thats probably fair.

deekster_caddy > Jedidiah 07/29/2014 at 13:04

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It's basically the same exact chassis/frame the Chevy 1/2 ton pickups were based on from '73 to the 90's. Even the brake drums and rotors, pads and calipers are the same part numbers as the 2WD pickups. They just used different engines.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Milky 07/29/2014 at 13:46

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Personally, I would love to have a stock looking truck that would beat a GTR in the 1/4.